"Nothing here now but the recordings" was an album compiled by Genesis of William S.Burroughs audio work, Released via Industrial records in 1980.
Genesis P-Orridge, founder of Throbbing Gristle, salvaged these recordings from Burroughs’ archives and was responsible for their preservation and release. The recordings highlight Burroughs’ influence on concrete poetry and industrial music. The recordings also spotlight Burroughs’ link with the sound experiments of Carl Weissner and Henri Chopin who published Burroughs on vinyl and in magazines in the late 1960′s and early 1970′s.
Notes on the release follow, all borrowed from the extensive Burroughs archive site http://realitystudio.org/
Borrowed from the article The Lost Tapes of Carl Weissner, Claude Pélieu and Mary Beach, 1967-1969
by Edward S. Robinson
...Burroughs’ own recordings, however, remained in the vaults. Initially recorded for the purposes of his own personal research, the tapes were not intended for public consumption. It wasn Genesis P-Orridge of Throbbing Gristle who convinced Burroughs to allow him to release a selection of these experiments commercially. After spending many long hours going through the tapes, Orridge compiled the hour’s worth of material that was released as Nothing Here Now But the Recordings on Industrial Records in 1980
.Nevertheless, Burroughs’ influence on music, particularly the music of the avant-garde, precedes the public release of his experimental recordings, primarily on account of his book Electronic Revolution (1970, 1972, 1976), which expounds the theoretical contexts of some of his practical experiments with audio. Throbbing Gristle were among the first to explore the possibilities of using tape loops, cut-ups, samples and “found sounds” to make music. It was in this work that Burroughs’ influence on music became truly tangible.This was true of many of the bands involved in the Industrial scene that exploded on both sides of the Atlantic between 1978 and 1984. They immersed themselves in studio experimentation and the application of techniques first explored by Burroughs and Gysin some 20 years previous. The reason for the delayed spread of the Virus in sound recordings was largely due to the lack of technology to facilitate widespread experimentation prior to 1978. But once Burroughs and Gysin had made the “breakthrough,” it was almost inevitable that their ideas would spread.
The appeal of Electronic Revolution is obvious. While those who had followed Burroughs’ writing through the cut-up experiments would have been able to admire the many qualities of the writing, and even the methodology behind it, to the extent that it was possible to “write like Burroughs,” Electronic Revolution revealed new possibilities, demonstrating the potential for the written word to develop and mutate in new directions off the page. It also represented a “call to arms” for dissenters, providing as it did directions for sonic terrorism with the potential for “real” results:
…make recordings and take pictures of some location you wish to discommode or destroy, now play recordings back and take more pictures, will result in accidents, fires, removals. Especially the latter. The target moves. We carried out this operation with the Scientology Center at 37 Fitzroy Street. Some months later they moved to 68 Tottenham Court Road, where a similar operation was carried out…
Like Naked Lunch and The Third Mind, Electronic Revolution is a “how-to” book, a handbook, with instructions for the replication of the author’s techniques to achieve specific effects. “Riot sound effects can produce an actual riot in a riot situation. Recorded police whistles will draw cops. Recorded gunshots, and their guns are out.”14 Burroughs explained the function of site-specific recording and playback thus:
…playback on location can produce definite effects. Playing back recordings of an accident can produce another accident… We carried out a number of these operations: street recordings, cut in of other material, playback in the streets …(I recall I had cut in fire engines and while playing this tape back in the street fire engines passed.)… (I wonder if anybody but CIA agents read this article or thought of putting these techniques into actual operation.) Anybody who carries out similar experiments over a period of time will turn up more “coincidences” than the law of averages allows.
It was the capacity to achieve a specific desired effect, as Burroughs’ empirical testing of the theories demonstrated, which proved a significant factor in the book’s appeal to a certain audience. Although Burroughs believed that “the influence of fiction is not direct,” he always intended for his writing to have a tangible effect upon the reader in some way — after all, “if your writing had no effect, then you would have something to worry about.”
Sunday, October 9, 2011
Tuesday, October 4, 2011
FIVE QUESTIONS from Genesis BREYER P-ORRIDGE From rebel rebel anti style site
http://rebelrebelantistyle.blogspot.com/
Genesis Breyer P-Orridge (born Neil Andrew Megson 22 February 1950) is an English singer-songwriter, musician, writer, and artist. P-Orridge's early confrontational performance work in COUM Transmissions in the late 1960s and early 1970s along with the industrial band Throbbing Gristle, which dealt with subjects such as prostitution, pornography, serial killers, occultism, and P-Orridge's own exploration of gender issues, generated controversy. Later musical work with Psychic TV received wider exposure, including some chart-topping singles. P-Orridge is credited on over 200 releases.
FIVE QUESTIONS from Genesis BREYER P-ORRIDGE
Q1. One could draw a line connecting your work to the “modern primitive” movement, Acid House, the industrial movement, punk rock, Timothy Leary, the Merry Pranksters, the Beat Generation all the way back to the Dada-ists. After 5 decades of artistic expression, including inspiring, creating and collaborating some of the aforementioned, where do you see your art going next?
In 1993 we met Lady Jaye. We have, as you say, met and collaborated with many amazing artists and literary figures in our journey. Derek Jarman, W.S. Burroughs, Brion Gysin, Ken Kesey, Dr Timothy Leary and a host more. We can honestly say, with hindsight and serious thought that Lady Jaye is the MOST remarkable human Being we have EVER met. From the beginning we began playful dressing up. We were the “Plague” for a reading at Jackie60!
We both believed in a direct karmic link between the Inquisitions and S&M Domination. The witches burned and tortured now wear the oppressors outfits and use their tools to torture males of power. Soon we were dressing the same, doing our hair the same. We saw our SELFs as two halves of a whole. Burroughs and Gysin credited their mutually created cut-ups with writing, photos and tape-recorders to a “THIRD MIND” that only existed as the union of the two of them through pieces of Creation. Lady Jaye and myself believe all that we create, and our very physical existence, when evidenced by our ever more determined rituals to integrate totally body and soul were a “THIRD BEING” which we called the Pandrogyne. A Positive Androgyne. Each of us was literally “The Other Half” of this being. The Alchemical hermaphrodite as storm troopers of a future in potentia. Burroughs asked me, how do you short circuit control? This led us via all kinds of scientific and consciousness exploration to conclude DNA is a probable contender for the location of control. We feel it is a recording device that goes back to single celled slime mold billions of years ago. Making it also the common denominator of “life”. We speculate that mitochondria could be the superior life form on earth and human beings are useful containers, deliberately given an unnecessarily short lifespan. We are hosts to this parasitic species. Where do the thoughts of DNA stop and our autonomous consciousness begin? By breeding constantly we unwittingly perpetuate our rival species who may have come from off earth.
NOW! We wanted to confound these little blighters. Our first act was a vasectomy. A denial of the continuance of DNA via my body. We see bodies more as a biological coral reef a congomerate of clusters with more than one agenda. Lady Jaye calls the body a cheap suitcase. We get discarded once our DNA has run its current programs. The human body is NOT SACRED! It is just a biological container for its precious cargo of consciousness. “YOU” and “I” are not the body itself. That is a container. “You” and “I” are the mind that resides within our cortices. Once we saw that DNA was a crucial sector of “control” we wanted to at least symbolically reject DNA and its usual control over exactly how our body looks and functions biologically. Which led us to cosmetic surgery procedures. The initial LOVE motivation of wanting to literally be physically consumedby each other and so be able (we dreamed) of becoming ONE single being after we both drop our cheap suitcases. A single being the sum total of both consciousnesses fully integrated and still aware of an autonomous memory of itself and thus viable for infinite time and space, even dimensional travel together for eternity. We have worked with reincarnated Rinpoches from Tibet for many years and are convinced certain beings can remain identity intact after death AND return and get reborn to continue spiritual work on earth should they choose. Why not aim for the stars? Brion Gysin said we are here to go…we agree. The human species as it is now is still at a primitive, theoretically larval stage. We have so much more potential to grow and develop. Our technological environment is far advanced over our spiritual growth. This imbalance has led to totalitarian capitalism which unchecked will destroy all species ever more rapidly. If we DO move out to colonize space, Pandrogeny suggests we use science to find how to hibernate like bears, frogs and many other creatures. Long journeys would become feasible. Perhaps we could become cold blooded to save on heat in space. Become shorter, maybe short legs are all we need in space without gravity. In fact once you realize that this body we have is dictated by DNA without your say, and you let go of assuming this is the end of our evolutionary design, the possibilities become endless. Grow fur, feathers, gills to swim, horns for decoration. Many hued skin. We have become apathetic and inert. Entropy is a natural law, when we stop using ourimaginations for the most incredible dreams of new perception, we are on the slow road to extinction. So, now we’ve shed a small light on what was an intricate grueling but ecstatic journey Lady Jaye and my SELF made, we can tell you the answer to question one.
We see our works going ever more deeply into the genetic and biological research required to make people aware that “This time around you CAN be ANYBODY, with ANY BODY”. (Dr Timothy Leary with a slight addition).
My personal goal is to prepare myself mentally, spiritually and physically to drop my body and then, we pray, find Lady Jaye’s “consciousness” awaiting me. Then we shall flow happily into each others essence in total unconditional surrender to BIG LOVE and become one “pandrogyne of pure mind” created from our two halves. Our work will metaphorically and literally always refer one way of another to this endless quest for moments of perfecting. Let our species awaken and perhaps begin to apply their massive resources to unifying our species instead of fragmenting it. We MUST start to truly see our SELF as one cell of a massive, beautiful organism called the Human Species. Once we perceive our SELF as a tiny part of a whole we would inevitably phase our conflict and be active only in the greater good. If food is needed it is supplied to the part of the species “body” that requires it. Once we see ourselves as totally integrated with every other person. Parts of a whole, like Lady Jaye and my SELF are parts of our whole too the likelihood of destructive and selfish choices diminishes.
VIVA LA EVOLUTION!!!
Q2. In 2009 “30 Years of Being Cut Up,” a retrospective of your collages was presented at Invisible-Exports and the Tate Gallery acquired 40 years’ worth of your art, writing, correspondence, video and audio. You have also lectured at universities and given talks at Rutgers. Do you feel you have now been accepted by the establishment?
There are days when we WISH we could “sell out” or whatever that is or how that is done we’ve never known. It is true we give Lectures sometimes at Colleges and Universities. Recently at MoMA in New York, Rutgers, and NYU. We have always
felt it vital for an artist to share both those who have inspired their path and work AND the conclusions and information they have retrieved during more extreme body and out of body experiences. Perhaps our explorations, some taken at risk, can be useful, functional or even just a flag saying “You are not alone” to a person in the boonies who is isolated, maybe picked on. So we accept talks to SHARE what we can IN CASE it is useful in some way, maybe even as a warning. The Establishment normally reward your surrender into their cabal with seductive invitations to power gatherings and soirees. They also funnel money to their favorites ( in the mediaeval sense of favorites). As long as young people come and tell me they are inspired or encouraged by my words we will continue to talk. We’d LOVE to begin teaching a seminar at NYU, or Columbus, any college in New York really. Any offers? So far we’ve not even been offered a degree or a blue “lived here” plaque on the old Funhouse in Prince Street, Hull…so it is a wary truce. But we are actually glad to be finally taken more seriously for our entire body of work rather than be cheaply dismissed for a miniscule number of more easily sensationalized moments decades ago.
Q3. In your early years, how did your parents react to your work?
We dropped out of Hull University after one year in 1969 and hitched to Islington to join David Medalla’s “Exploding Galaxy” commune. On the way to London we went and told my parents who’d sacrificed a lot to put me through a really good private education via scholarships. My mother cried a little and hoped we’d go back and “Get a degree first”. We refused. My father was angry. He only called me by phone ONE time between 1969 and his death in the late 90’s. When we changed our name to Genesis P-Orridge legally my mother cried a lot more! She saw it as a rejection of them and my ancestors. She too only phoned me once herself since then this year when she died at 92. However, during especially COUM Transmissions times she usually just said “OH Gen, is that really necessary?” So the first 20 years alienated both my parents. They found the endless sensationalist press embarrassing at social functions where all their friends knew all about what her naughtyson got up to. In the last decade or so she began to be very PROUD of my works. She would often say, “Well you were always 30 years ahead of your time dear,” It really changed when we curated a night at the Royal Festival Hall, London. Being pre-war generation she admired the Royal Family. So the Queens own theatre was a big deal. Then the Tate
Britain added my archives (what was left) to the National Collection and to her this was real vindication. She was always careful never to ask about the CONTENT though. My mother adored Lady Jaye and this mellowed her to me and our works together. She took tits and make-up in her stride, Not even blinking.
Q4. Has the concept of ‘Pandrogyny’ been welcomed by transgender community?
PANDROGENY is not about switching gender. It is about the deep ramifications of identity, social, economic, violent, political, religious conditioning however and about peer group and familial pressure too. Inevitably gender inequities are entwined irrevocably in all this. One way we try and explain the different emphasis Pandrogeny is more concerned with. Some people feel they are a woman trapped in a mans body. Some people fell they are a man trapped in a womans body. A Pandrogyne just feels trapped in a body.
We have little control, as yet, over length of life. If we could have our dream it would be to have a vagina, asshole, penis and breasts. We want it all! We also find binary systems anathema to radicalized evolutionary forces. The increase in visibility of thetransgender and transsexual, even intersexed community are all wonderful progress to us. And as we are almost always assumed to be a woman when out and about, we find it simpler to reinforce transexuality that way. By leading life 24x7 as a female appearing Pandrogyne we HAVE had bigots and thugs attack us. We suffer curb crawlers too with hetero rape in mind. Don’t imagine it is easier to be pandrogenous. And we support all our GBLT communities 100%. Having said all that, it has so far ONLY been a small minority of transgendered people who have expressed disdain, even anger at us. The picture that some trans people see during transition is a holy grail perhaps of finally being a woman and being WHO THEY REALLY are. And we can see that there is a certain acceptance in terms of a stereotype of “woman” being imagined. It is so psychologically complicated. Just remember if you feel we blur the issues, we would be burned on the stake next to you if the fundamentalists got their way. And as an aside, personally, we identity as a female. But we are not bothering to change our voice or walk etc. We want to be an accumulation. A spanner in the identity machine. Nearer the beginning with Jaye being as much alike and feminized was enough. NOW we see there’s a huge amount of work to do to end injustices, CHANGE human behavior for good and succeed in liberating our selves our bodies beyond gender and sexual stereotypes to a whole new evolutionary paradigm. Transsexuals, for reasons of protection and support, tend to form groups and take care of each other to varying degrees. Pandrogynes are ALL inclusive, the deepest nature and behaviors is our province. Can we CHANGE humans from self destruction, hypocrisy, fear and suppression from those in power?
We believe we can and Pandrogeny is one tool.
Q5. It struck me that, more than 30 years after a Tory member of Parliament seethed to the Daily Mail, “These people are the wreckers of civilization”, you still have the power to shock and confront people in a way that many of your contemporaries have lost. Do you think there are any artists/performers today who could carry the mantle of “Wreckers Of Civilization”?
We have felt slight twitchings of something happening. Go to our website www.truetopi.ning.com where we are trying to create a network with the primary reason for this ning is to brainstorm on the realities of setting up autonomous, creation driven (ie. Art etc) coum-unities. Who buys the land? Who owns it? How do you survive? Who cooks, cleans, gardens? Having lived in communes and collectives of various types most of my life we HAVE seen the best and worst of such experimental coum-unities. Our legacy, could we have one, would be to begin a long lasting web of small self motivating coum,-unities and retreats. Avoiding the myriad pitfalls that destroy nearly all communes in a year. As to specific artists who might be termed “Wreckers”….not so far. But that doesn’t mean they are not out there. However, our belief is the Individual, look at me!, ego sodden, uniquely inspired devoid of influences artists are less and less relevant. And as global structures collapse. Zones set up for shared pressures will also be collections of artists, musicians, writers, thinkers, mechanics, and lovers. VIVA LA EVOLUTION!!
Genesis Breyer P-Orridge (born Neil Andrew Megson 22 February 1950) is an English singer-songwriter, musician, writer, and artist. P-Orridge's early confrontational performance work in COUM Transmissions in the late 1960s and early 1970s along with the industrial band Throbbing Gristle, which dealt with subjects such as prostitution, pornography, serial killers, occultism, and P-Orridge's own exploration of gender issues, generated controversy. Later musical work with Psychic TV received wider exposure, including some chart-topping singles. P-Orridge is credited on over 200 releases.
FIVE QUESTIONS from Genesis BREYER P-ORRIDGE
Q1. One could draw a line connecting your work to the “modern primitive” movement, Acid House, the industrial movement, punk rock, Timothy Leary, the Merry Pranksters, the Beat Generation all the way back to the Dada-ists. After 5 decades of artistic expression, including inspiring, creating and collaborating some of the aforementioned, where do you see your art going next?
In 1993 we met Lady Jaye. We have, as you say, met and collaborated with many amazing artists and literary figures in our journey. Derek Jarman, W.S. Burroughs, Brion Gysin, Ken Kesey, Dr Timothy Leary and a host more. We can honestly say, with hindsight and serious thought that Lady Jaye is the MOST remarkable human Being we have EVER met. From the beginning we began playful dressing up. We were the “Plague” for a reading at Jackie60!
We both believed in a direct karmic link between the Inquisitions and S&M Domination. The witches burned and tortured now wear the oppressors outfits and use their tools to torture males of power. Soon we were dressing the same, doing our hair the same. We saw our SELFs as two halves of a whole. Burroughs and Gysin credited their mutually created cut-ups with writing, photos and tape-recorders to a “THIRD MIND” that only existed as the union of the two of them through pieces of Creation. Lady Jaye and myself believe all that we create, and our very physical existence, when evidenced by our ever more determined rituals to integrate totally body and soul were a “THIRD BEING” which we called the Pandrogyne. A Positive Androgyne. Each of us was literally “The Other Half” of this being. The Alchemical hermaphrodite as storm troopers of a future in potentia. Burroughs asked me, how do you short circuit control? This led us via all kinds of scientific and consciousness exploration to conclude DNA is a probable contender for the location of control. We feel it is a recording device that goes back to single celled slime mold billions of years ago. Making it also the common denominator of “life”. We speculate that mitochondria could be the superior life form on earth and human beings are useful containers, deliberately given an unnecessarily short lifespan. We are hosts to this parasitic species. Where do the thoughts of DNA stop and our autonomous consciousness begin? By breeding constantly we unwittingly perpetuate our rival species who may have come from off earth.
NOW! We wanted to confound these little blighters. Our first act was a vasectomy. A denial of the continuance of DNA via my body. We see bodies more as a biological coral reef a congomerate of clusters with more than one agenda. Lady Jaye calls the body a cheap suitcase. We get discarded once our DNA has run its current programs. The human body is NOT SACRED! It is just a biological container for its precious cargo of consciousness. “YOU” and “I” are not the body itself. That is a container. “You” and “I” are the mind that resides within our cortices. Once we saw that DNA was a crucial sector of “control” we wanted to at least symbolically reject DNA and its usual control over exactly how our body looks and functions biologically. Which led us to cosmetic surgery procedures. The initial LOVE motivation of wanting to literally be physically consumedby each other and so be able (we dreamed) of becoming ONE single being after we both drop our cheap suitcases. A single being the sum total of both consciousnesses fully integrated and still aware of an autonomous memory of itself and thus viable for infinite time and space, even dimensional travel together for eternity. We have worked with reincarnated Rinpoches from Tibet for many years and are convinced certain beings can remain identity intact after death AND return and get reborn to continue spiritual work on earth should they choose. Why not aim for the stars? Brion Gysin said we are here to go…we agree. The human species as it is now is still at a primitive, theoretically larval stage. We have so much more potential to grow and develop. Our technological environment is far advanced over our spiritual growth. This imbalance has led to totalitarian capitalism which unchecked will destroy all species ever more rapidly. If we DO move out to colonize space, Pandrogeny suggests we use science to find how to hibernate like bears, frogs and many other creatures. Long journeys would become feasible. Perhaps we could become cold blooded to save on heat in space. Become shorter, maybe short legs are all we need in space without gravity. In fact once you realize that this body we have is dictated by DNA without your say, and you let go of assuming this is the end of our evolutionary design, the possibilities become endless. Grow fur, feathers, gills to swim, horns for decoration. Many hued skin. We have become apathetic and inert. Entropy is a natural law, when we stop using ourimaginations for the most incredible dreams of new perception, we are on the slow road to extinction. So, now we’ve shed a small light on what was an intricate grueling but ecstatic journey Lady Jaye and my SELF made, we can tell you the answer to question one.
We see our works going ever more deeply into the genetic and biological research required to make people aware that “This time around you CAN be ANYBODY, with ANY BODY”. (Dr Timothy Leary with a slight addition).
My personal goal is to prepare myself mentally, spiritually and physically to drop my body and then, we pray, find Lady Jaye’s “consciousness” awaiting me. Then we shall flow happily into each others essence in total unconditional surrender to BIG LOVE and become one “pandrogyne of pure mind” created from our two halves. Our work will metaphorically and literally always refer one way of another to this endless quest for moments of perfecting. Let our species awaken and perhaps begin to apply their massive resources to unifying our species instead of fragmenting it. We MUST start to truly see our SELF as one cell of a massive, beautiful organism called the Human Species. Once we perceive our SELF as a tiny part of a whole we would inevitably phase our conflict and be active only in the greater good. If food is needed it is supplied to the part of the species “body” that requires it. Once we see ourselves as totally integrated with every other person. Parts of a whole, like Lady Jaye and my SELF are parts of our whole too the likelihood of destructive and selfish choices diminishes.
VIVA LA EVOLUTION!!!
Q2. In 2009 “30 Years of Being Cut Up,” a retrospective of your collages was presented at Invisible-Exports and the Tate Gallery acquired 40 years’ worth of your art, writing, correspondence, video and audio. You have also lectured at universities and given talks at Rutgers. Do you feel you have now been accepted by the establishment?
There are days when we WISH we could “sell out” or whatever that is or how that is done we’ve never known. It is true we give Lectures sometimes at Colleges and Universities. Recently at MoMA in New York, Rutgers, and NYU. We have always
felt it vital for an artist to share both those who have inspired their path and work AND the conclusions and information they have retrieved during more extreme body and out of body experiences. Perhaps our explorations, some taken at risk, can be useful, functional or even just a flag saying “You are not alone” to a person in the boonies who is isolated, maybe picked on. So we accept talks to SHARE what we can IN CASE it is useful in some way, maybe even as a warning. The Establishment normally reward your surrender into their cabal with seductive invitations to power gatherings and soirees. They also funnel money to their favorites ( in the mediaeval sense of favorites). As long as young people come and tell me they are inspired or encouraged by my words we will continue to talk. We’d LOVE to begin teaching a seminar at NYU, or Columbus, any college in New York really. Any offers? So far we’ve not even been offered a degree or a blue “lived here” plaque on the old Funhouse in Prince Street, Hull…so it is a wary truce. But we are actually glad to be finally taken more seriously for our entire body of work rather than be cheaply dismissed for a miniscule number of more easily sensationalized moments decades ago.
Q3. In your early years, how did your parents react to your work?
We dropped out of Hull University after one year in 1969 and hitched to Islington to join David Medalla’s “Exploding Galaxy” commune. On the way to London we went and told my parents who’d sacrificed a lot to put me through a really good private education via scholarships. My mother cried a little and hoped we’d go back and “Get a degree first”. We refused. My father was angry. He only called me by phone ONE time between 1969 and his death in the late 90’s. When we changed our name to Genesis P-Orridge legally my mother cried a lot more! She saw it as a rejection of them and my ancestors. She too only phoned me once herself since then this year when she died at 92. However, during especially COUM Transmissions times she usually just said “OH Gen, is that really necessary?” So the first 20 years alienated both my parents. They found the endless sensationalist press embarrassing at social functions where all their friends knew all about what her naughtyson got up to. In the last decade or so she began to be very PROUD of my works. She would often say, “Well you were always 30 years ahead of your time dear,” It really changed when we curated a night at the Royal Festival Hall, London. Being pre-war generation she admired the Royal Family. So the Queens own theatre was a big deal. Then the Tate
Britain added my archives (what was left) to the National Collection and to her this was real vindication. She was always careful never to ask about the CONTENT though. My mother adored Lady Jaye and this mellowed her to me and our works together. She took tits and make-up in her stride, Not even blinking.
Q4. Has the concept of ‘Pandrogyny’ been welcomed by transgender community?
PANDROGENY is not about switching gender. It is about the deep ramifications of identity, social, economic, violent, political, religious conditioning however and about peer group and familial pressure too. Inevitably gender inequities are entwined irrevocably in all this. One way we try and explain the different emphasis Pandrogeny is more concerned with. Some people feel they are a woman trapped in a mans body. Some people fell they are a man trapped in a womans body. A Pandrogyne just feels trapped in a body.
We have little control, as yet, over length of life. If we could have our dream it would be to have a vagina, asshole, penis and breasts. We want it all! We also find binary systems anathema to radicalized evolutionary forces. The increase in visibility of thetransgender and transsexual, even intersexed community are all wonderful progress to us. And as we are almost always assumed to be a woman when out and about, we find it simpler to reinforce transexuality that way. By leading life 24x7 as a female appearing Pandrogyne we HAVE had bigots and thugs attack us. We suffer curb crawlers too with hetero rape in mind. Don’t imagine it is easier to be pandrogenous. And we support all our GBLT communities 100%. Having said all that, it has so far ONLY been a small minority of transgendered people who have expressed disdain, even anger at us. The picture that some trans people see during transition is a holy grail perhaps of finally being a woman and being WHO THEY REALLY are. And we can see that there is a certain acceptance in terms of a stereotype of “woman” being imagined. It is so psychologically complicated. Just remember if you feel we blur the issues, we would be burned on the stake next to you if the fundamentalists got their way. And as an aside, personally, we identity as a female. But we are not bothering to change our voice or walk etc. We want to be an accumulation. A spanner in the identity machine. Nearer the beginning with Jaye being as much alike and feminized was enough. NOW we see there’s a huge amount of work to do to end injustices, CHANGE human behavior for good and succeed in liberating our selves our bodies beyond gender and sexual stereotypes to a whole new evolutionary paradigm. Transsexuals, for reasons of protection and support, tend to form groups and take care of each other to varying degrees. Pandrogynes are ALL inclusive, the deepest nature and behaviors is our province. Can we CHANGE humans from self destruction, hypocrisy, fear and suppression from those in power?
We believe we can and Pandrogeny is one tool.
Q5. It struck me that, more than 30 years after a Tory member of Parliament seethed to the Daily Mail, “These people are the wreckers of civilization”, you still have the power to shock and confront people in a way that many of your contemporaries have lost. Do you think there are any artists/performers today who could carry the mantle of “Wreckers Of Civilization”?
We have felt slight twitchings of something happening. Go to our website www.truetopi.ning.com where we are trying to create a network with the primary reason for this ning is to brainstorm on the realities of setting up autonomous, creation driven (ie. Art etc) coum-unities. Who buys the land? Who owns it? How do you survive? Who cooks, cleans, gardens? Having lived in communes and collectives of various types most of my life we HAVE seen the best and worst of such experimental coum-unities. Our legacy, could we have one, would be to begin a long lasting web of small self motivating coum,-unities and retreats. Avoiding the myriad pitfalls that destroy nearly all communes in a year. As to specific artists who might be termed “Wreckers”….not so far. But that doesn’t mean they are not out there. However, our belief is the Individual, look at me!, ego sodden, uniquely inspired devoid of influences artists are less and less relevant. And as global structures collapse. Zones set up for shared pressures will also be collections of artists, musicians, writers, thinkers, mechanics, and lovers. VIVA LA EVOLUTION!!
Sunday, September 25, 2011
Psychic TV / PTV3 announces new 12" and US mini tour dates:
Psychic TV / PTV3 announces new 12" and US mini tour dates:
"Mother Sky/Alien Sky" is our new long play 12" vinyl from Vanity Case Records in Leeds, UK will be released on October 23rd, 2011 on heavenly blue & white vinyl. Limited edition of 500 copies. (A portion will be sold on the webshoppe as an autographed edition with extra goodies of course). To support this release, we will be playing several dis-concerts in the USA only. Plans are being hatched to bring out a tour-only slab of vinyl featuring our 16 minute new epic entitled "Thank You". These would be sold at our US appearances, Adelaide Festival in Australia (March 2012) and a few for the webshoppe for our European friends!
Friday Dec. 09, 2011 at Elysium in Austin TX
Tickets: http://www.secret-oktober.com/?page_id=1298
$13 advance / $18 door
Psychic TV / PTV3
CHANT
Coma in Algiers
DJ SLIVER
Sunday Dec. 11, 2011 at Reggies Rock Club in Chicago, IL.
Tickets: http://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/61041?utm_medium=bks
$15 advance / $20 door / $50 VIP
Psychic TV / PTV3
Claw Toe
(more tba)
DJ SLIVER
ONE TRUE TOPI TRIBE Annual Celebration and Invokation
Thursday Dec. 15, 2011 at Europa in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, NY.
Tickets: http://www.ticketweb.com/snl/Search.action?query=Psychic+TV
$23 advance / $25 door
Psychic TV / PTV3
Bryin Dall (live soundtrack to The Life & Death of Jordan)
Cult of Youth
"Mother Sky/Alien Sky" is our new long play 12" vinyl from Vanity Case Records in Leeds, UK will be released on October 23rd, 2011 on heavenly blue & white vinyl. Limited edition of 500 copies. (A portion will be sold on the webshoppe as an autographed edition with extra goodies of course). To support this release, we will be playing several dis-concerts in the USA only. Plans are being hatched to bring out a tour-only slab of vinyl featuring our 16 minute new epic entitled "Thank You". These would be sold at our US appearances, Adelaide Festival in Australia (March 2012) and a few for the webshoppe for our European friends!
Friday Dec. 09, 2011 at Elysium in Austin TX
Tickets: http://www.secret-oktober.com/?page_id=1298
$13 advance / $18 door
Psychic TV / PTV3
CHANT
Coma in Algiers
DJ SLIVER
Sunday Dec. 11, 2011 at Reggies Rock Club in Chicago, IL.
Tickets: http://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/61041?utm_medium=bks
$15 advance / $20 door / $50 VIP
Psychic TV / PTV3
Claw Toe
(more tba)
DJ SLIVER
ONE TRUE TOPI TRIBE Annual Celebration and Invokation
Thursday Dec. 15, 2011 at Europa in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, NY.
Tickets: http://www.ticketweb.com/snl/Search.action?query=Psychic+TV
$23 advance / $25 door
Psychic TV / PTV3
Bryin Dall (live soundtrack to The Life & Death of Jordan)
Cult of Youth
Saturday, September 24, 2011
Comics writer Grant Morrison Discusses Genesis in the Letter Column of the Dc / vertigo comic "The Invisibles" issue 19 (1996)
In answering a writer who asked if Morrison had read int othe ideas of The Temple of Psychick Youth, Morrison replies...
"...I haven't read a lot of temple stuff. I'm aware of Genesis p-orridge and his ideas mainly through interviews but i have no idea how the temple evolved without him.The sigil method, as i'm famliar with it, was developed by occutist and artist Austin Osman Spare (1888/89-1956) and passed through the Chaos Current by Peter Carroll and Ray Sherwin in the early ' 80's.
Morrison would term his Invisibles work " A hypersigil"
-From" his intro "POP MAGIC!". In Richard, Metzger. Book of Lies: The Disinformation Guide to Magick and the Occult. The Disinformation Company. 2003 (also included chapters by Genesis which would later appear in the Psychic Bible.)
"The 'hypersigil' or 'supersigil' develops the sigil concept beyond the static image and incorporates elements such as characterization, drama, and plot. The hypersigil is a sigil extended through the fourth dimension. My own comic book series The Invisibles was a six-year long sigil in the form of an occult adventure story which consumed and recreated my life during the period of its composition and execution. The hypersigil is an immensely powerful and sometimes dangerous method for actually altering reality in accordance with intent. Results can be remarkable and shocking."
"...I haven't read a lot of temple stuff. I'm aware of Genesis p-orridge and his ideas mainly through interviews but i have no idea how the temple evolved without him.The sigil method, as i'm famliar with it, was developed by occutist and artist Austin Osman Spare (1888/89-1956) and passed through the Chaos Current by Peter Carroll and Ray Sherwin in the early ' 80's.
Morrison would term his Invisibles work " A hypersigil"
-From" his intro "POP MAGIC!". In Richard, Metzger. Book of Lies: The Disinformation Guide to Magick and the Occult. The Disinformation Company. 2003 (also included chapters by Genesis which would later appear in the Psychic Bible.)
"The 'hypersigil' or 'supersigil' develops the sigil concept beyond the static image and incorporates elements such as characterization, drama, and plot. The hypersigil is a sigil extended through the fourth dimension. My own comic book series The Invisibles was a six-year long sigil in the form of an occult adventure story which consumed and recreated my life during the period of its composition and execution. The hypersigil is an immensely powerful and sometimes dangerous method for actually altering reality in accordance with intent. Results can be remarkable and shocking."
Wednesday, September 21, 2011
COUM TRANSMISSIONS 'Sugarmorphoses' LP Cold Spring Records
From Cold Spring records...
In stock: COUM TRANSMISSIONS 'Sugarmorphoses' LP. Genesis P-Orridge (Throbbing Gristle, Psychic TV). Recorded 1974, Ho Ho Funhouse. Ltd 1000
http://www.coldspring.co.uk/
In stock: COUM TRANSMISSIONS 'Sugarmorphoses' LP. Genesis P-Orridge (Throbbing Gristle, Psychic TV). Recorded 1974, Ho Ho Funhouse. Ltd 1000
http://www.coldspring.co.uk/
Tuesday, September 20, 2011
Adopt films nabs documentary "The Ballad of Genesis and Lady Jaye" as first acquisition
Adopt films nabs documentary as first acquisition
By Tim Molloy
Wed Sep 7, 2011 12:49pm EDT
NEW YORK (TheWrap.com) - Adopt Films, a new independent distribution company formed by October Films co-founder Jeff Lipsky and former exhibitor Tim Grady, have announced their first acquisition, the award-winning documentary "The Ballad of Genesis and Lady Jaye."
The company plans to release French-American filmmaker Marie Losier's film in the U.S. in the first quarter of 2012.
Adopt Films, which will be based in New York, plans to acquire independent English-language films, both narrative and documentary, as well as foreign language films.
"I truly feel this might be the single best time to launch a new independent distribution company since Bingham Ray and I plotted out October in my then-living room in Sherman Oaks in 1990," said Lipsky. "Our focus at Adopt will be on films that have theatrical potential, first and foremost. I'm not a glass half-full kind of guy about the ongoing potential theatrical audience for independent films, I'm a glass three-quarters-full kind of guy."
He said he hoped Adopt's first releases would be as eclectic and high profile as such early October films as "Adam's Rib," "The Tune," and "Tous les matins du monde."
"Adopt will be in a better position to fully exploit our films in all media because we'll have fully exploited each film's table-setting theatrical rights first," Grady added.
Added Losier: "I am so happy to have met a ball of energy, ready to put all their talent, passion and dreams into my first feature film! This is going to be a wonderful adventure and a precious honor to be the first Adopt Films release."
Lipsky and Grady negotiated the deal with Losier and her producing and business partners Steve Holmgren and Martin Marquet. The film tells the story of a love affair between British musician and artist Genesis Breyer P-Orridge, founder of industrial bands COUM Transmissions, Throbbing Gristle and Psychic TV, and New York performance artist Lady Jaye (Jacqueline Breyer).
The film premiered at this year's Berlin Film Festival, where it won the prestigious Teddy and Caligari Awards. It was an official selection at this year's South by Southwest (SXSW), Tribeca, Hot Docs (Toronto), and San Francisco International Film Festivals.
Lipsky began his distribution career with "A Woman Under the Influence," working with his mentor, John Cassavetes. He was an executive at New Yorker Films, Samuel Goldwyn Films, and Skouras Pictures.
He is also a filmmaker, whose films include "Twelve Thirty," "Childhood's End," and the 2006 Sundance Film Festival Dramatic Competition selection "Flannel Pajamas."
By Tim Molloy
Wed Sep 7, 2011 12:49pm EDT
NEW YORK (TheWrap.com) - Adopt Films, a new independent distribution company formed by October Films co-founder Jeff Lipsky and former exhibitor Tim Grady, have announced their first acquisition, the award-winning documentary "The Ballad of Genesis and Lady Jaye."
The company plans to release French-American filmmaker Marie Losier's film in the U.S. in the first quarter of 2012.
Adopt Films, which will be based in New York, plans to acquire independent English-language films, both narrative and documentary, as well as foreign language films.
"I truly feel this might be the single best time to launch a new independent distribution company since Bingham Ray and I plotted out October in my then-living room in Sherman Oaks in 1990," said Lipsky. "Our focus at Adopt will be on films that have theatrical potential, first and foremost. I'm not a glass half-full kind of guy about the ongoing potential theatrical audience for independent films, I'm a glass three-quarters-full kind of guy."
He said he hoped Adopt's first releases would be as eclectic and high profile as such early October films as "Adam's Rib," "The Tune," and "Tous les matins du monde."
"Adopt will be in a better position to fully exploit our films in all media because we'll have fully exploited each film's table-setting theatrical rights first," Grady added.
Added Losier: "I am so happy to have met a ball of energy, ready to put all their talent, passion and dreams into my first feature film! This is going to be a wonderful adventure and a precious honor to be the first Adopt Films release."
Lipsky and Grady negotiated the deal with Losier and her producing and business partners Steve Holmgren and Martin Marquet. The film tells the story of a love affair between British musician and artist Genesis Breyer P-Orridge, founder of industrial bands COUM Transmissions, Throbbing Gristle and Psychic TV, and New York performance artist Lady Jaye (Jacqueline Breyer).
The film premiered at this year's Berlin Film Festival, where it won the prestigious Teddy and Caligari Awards. It was an official selection at this year's South by Southwest (SXSW), Tribeca, Hot Docs (Toronto), and San Francisco International Film Festivals.
Lipsky began his distribution career with "A Woman Under the Influence," working with his mentor, John Cassavetes. He was an executive at New Yorker Films, Samuel Goldwyn Films, and Skouras Pictures.
He is also a filmmaker, whose films include "Twelve Thirty," "Childhood's End," and the 2006 Sundance Film Festival Dramatic Competition selection "Flannel Pajamas."
Friday, September 16, 2011
THEE RE-EMERGENCE of A TRUE TOPI TRIBE (A message from Genesis)
The following is a message from Genesis for all OTTT members
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Dearest Friends,
We have been through so much, all ov us. Each in their unique ways. NOW! Everybody with sense can see that there is a crumbling ov thee old economic ways. For coum T.I.M.E. we have been talking in our Lectures about thee untenable structure ov current systems. We live on a beauty-full planet, full ov miraculous natural and technological things, butter by thee very fact that this world is finite in size and raw content there are undeniable limits to everything. Thee ongoing model for economies is based upon ever increasing "GROWTH" and "PRODUCTIVITY". As thee human species has multiplied ever more quickly thee once apparently limitless resources exploited by thee Colonial, then Industrial, and finally Digital eras has revealed an OBVIOUS fact. In a finte world there are inevitably finite resources. And as we all know those resources, not just oil, but potable water,food, wood, in fact EVERY raw material used in manufacturing, are now revealed to be fast declining and running out. Infinite, permanent growth, and infinite permanently expanding productivity go literally against the laws of Nature. There will be surges ov strategies to give an illusion ov solutions by yet again raping Africa and other "underveloped Third World nations". These "New Markets" will sustain coum aspects ov thee failing materialist economies for a decade or so. Butter, in thee end I.T. will have to be faced that consumption of a finite "cake" lasts only as long as thee cake. There is no magick wand to wave to do a Christ and make thee fishes and loaves miraculously never run out. Thee first nation to realise thee oncouming disasters was China. They have led thee way with TOTALITARIAN CAPITALISM. Thee imposition ov virtual slave labour by intimidation and violence. We all conform to our particular countries systems in part due to awareness that punishment and imprisonment are a constant coumpanion via police, secret surveillance, and if necessary marshall law. All societies use intimidation to impose structure, no matter how discreet or benevolent I.T. may seem.
Thee current panics worldwide are symptomatic ov a slow realisation ov thee inevitability ov collapse ov ALL economic systems worldwide. Globalisation has accelerated this process. One wonders how deliberate or stupid those changes were? Butter that's too much to cover here.
We set up OTTT with Jacurutu and others to initiate a dialogue and discussion by relatively like-minded, commonly Creative beings. Brainstorming these issues we wondered, who will be best prepared to survive and adapt when a "Greece" happens in thee U.S.A.? I.T. seemed probable this would be Survivalist Groups ov all stripes; outlaw Biker gangs; in thee cities crimanal gangs and illicit drug networks; armed forces bases and ov course thee very politicians whose ostrich denials and greed for power for I.T.s own sake has led to this ongoing mess.
I.T. seemed therefore, important to seriously begin copnsidering, planning and thrashing out a way for our own ad hoc, anarchic chosen famille to be prepared for hard T.I.M.E.s ahead. To study thee existing templates ov thee various groups most likely to succeed in surviving and protecting their people. What are thee qualities and structures that give them an edge? Is I.T. even possible to develop a truly working autonomous yet POSITIVE and creative group ov Individuals coum-unity that has staying power? We lived in communes and collectives almost continuously from 1969 until 1992 when we were forced into voluntary exile from thee U.K. Even then, in California we had an open house policy for friends in need ov a place to live and work. Coum ov those people respected us for our generosity, coum later turned out to see our kindness as a weakness.
And THIS is why we feel there is a need to figure out, in advance, how viable this dream and practical concept REALLY IS! Having spent y-eras in communes we can speak from experience most end within 2 y-eras. Often due to conflict over kitchens, cleaning,food and bathrooms. So many people declare their coummitment and talk thee talk butter once ensconced in a coum-unity expect everyone else to resolve issues, supply food, clean up and so on. Their covert attitude is, "What is yours is mine, what is mine is mine". I.T. only takes one or two assholes to destroy everything by disillusioning thee dedicated.
Another problem is "authority". Is there a council, chosen by all who try and oversee thee safety and developmeant ov thee coum-unity? Does one person inevitably becoum "Leader" and eventually becoum thee scapegoat for any mishaps or failures. Often these Alpha types generate secret jealousy and bitterness when forced to make unpoular decisions and therein is another disintegration. Coum-unities are thee hardest social model to perpetuate successfully. Money is ALL ways a terrible problem. Does everyone put all they own into thee pot and if so, who oversees thee use of that? If coumone leaves can they demand their contribution back? We want this NING to coumtinue in thee super positive way I.T. has created its SELF without any initial guidance at all. We are really impressed with how many groups and contact points, ideas and trust has been established by you all so fast.
We recently read a book published by Processmediainc.com. I.T. is a coumpilation ov articles written in thee 1960's and earlier 1970's when thousands ov groups ov all stripes tried to form coumunes across thee U.S.A. Ov these, today, probably less than 23 survive. All those who survived have a philosophy, or spiritual aspect, a unifying belief system that means enough to them to accept problems, to resolve issues for thee best for all and all have to subjugate ego to varying degrees for the collective health. We are hoping that thee ONE TRUE TOPI TRIBE can re-emerge from this ailing culture and gradually, after a LOT ov soul searching and extreme honesty, establish one or more coum-unities that will survive. I.T. is NOT easy, rarely fun at thee start, hard work, I.T. requires SINCERE surrender to thee group. A house full ov egos and/or strong opinions is not easy to develop in positive long term ways. WE are totally serious about this aspect ov OTTT. I.T. has all ways been a lifelong hope.
PLEASE, we cannot recommend too strongly that ANY Being here who even just imagines they'd like top make this happen, READ THIS BOOK as soon as possible.
"THE MODERN UTOPIAN" ( Alternative Communities of the 60's and 70's) by RICHARD FAIRFIELD.
We consider I.T. essential reading. You will soon realise how HARD creating a coum-unity is, AND how even more difficult I.T. is to sustain one for any length ov T.I.M.E.
Please forward this posting to everyone on thee NING if you can.
cari saluti,
Genesis BREYER P-ORRIDGE NYC September 2011
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dearest Friends,
We have been through so much, all ov us. Each in their unique ways. NOW! Everybody with sense can see that there is a crumbling ov thee old economic ways. For coum T.I.M.E. we have been talking in our Lectures about thee untenable structure ov current systems. We live on a beauty-full planet, full ov miraculous natural and technological things, butter by thee very fact that this world is finite in size and raw content there are undeniable limits to everything. Thee ongoing model for economies is based upon ever increasing "GROWTH" and "PRODUCTIVITY". As thee human species has multiplied ever more quickly thee once apparently limitless resources exploited by thee Colonial, then Industrial, and finally Digital eras has revealed an OBVIOUS fact. In a finte world there are inevitably finite resources. And as we all know those resources, not just oil, but potable water,food, wood, in fact EVERY raw material used in manufacturing, are now revealed to be fast declining and running out. Infinite, permanent growth, and infinite permanently expanding productivity go literally against the laws of Nature. There will be surges ov strategies to give an illusion ov solutions by yet again raping Africa and other "underveloped Third World nations". These "New Markets" will sustain coum aspects ov thee failing materialist economies for a decade or so. Butter, in thee end I.T. will have to be faced that consumption of a finite "cake" lasts only as long as thee cake. There is no magick wand to wave to do a Christ and make thee fishes and loaves miraculously never run out. Thee first nation to realise thee oncouming disasters was China. They have led thee way with TOTALITARIAN CAPITALISM. Thee imposition ov virtual slave labour by intimidation and violence. We all conform to our particular countries systems in part due to awareness that punishment and imprisonment are a constant coumpanion via police, secret surveillance, and if necessary marshall law. All societies use intimidation to impose structure, no matter how discreet or benevolent I.T. may seem.
Thee current panics worldwide are symptomatic ov a slow realisation ov thee inevitability ov collapse ov ALL economic systems worldwide. Globalisation has accelerated this process. One wonders how deliberate or stupid those changes were? Butter that's too much to cover here.
We set up OTTT with Jacurutu and others to initiate a dialogue and discussion by relatively like-minded, commonly Creative beings. Brainstorming these issues we wondered, who will be best prepared to survive and adapt when a "Greece" happens in thee U.S.A.? I.T. seemed probable this would be Survivalist Groups ov all stripes; outlaw Biker gangs; in thee cities crimanal gangs and illicit drug networks; armed forces bases and ov course thee very politicians whose ostrich denials and greed for power for I.T.s own sake has led to this ongoing mess.
I.T. seemed therefore, important to seriously begin copnsidering, planning and thrashing out a way for our own ad hoc, anarchic chosen famille to be prepared for hard T.I.M.E.s ahead. To study thee existing templates ov thee various groups most likely to succeed in surviving and protecting their people. What are thee qualities and structures that give them an edge? Is I.T. even possible to develop a truly working autonomous yet POSITIVE and creative group ov Individuals coum-unity that has staying power? We lived in communes and collectives almost continuously from 1969 until 1992 when we were forced into voluntary exile from thee U.K. Even then, in California we had an open house policy for friends in need ov a place to live and work. Coum ov those people respected us for our generosity, coum later turned out to see our kindness as a weakness.
And THIS is why we feel there is a need to figure out, in advance, how viable this dream and practical concept REALLY IS! Having spent y-eras in communes we can speak from experience most end within 2 y-eras. Often due to conflict over kitchens, cleaning,food and bathrooms. So many people declare their coummitment and talk thee talk butter once ensconced in a coum-unity expect everyone else to resolve issues, supply food, clean up and so on. Their covert attitude is, "What is yours is mine, what is mine is mine". I.T. only takes one or two assholes to destroy everything by disillusioning thee dedicated.
Another problem is "authority". Is there a council, chosen by all who try and oversee thee safety and developmeant ov thee coum-unity? Does one person inevitably becoum "Leader" and eventually becoum thee scapegoat for any mishaps or failures. Often these Alpha types generate secret jealousy and bitterness when forced to make unpoular decisions and therein is another disintegration. Coum-unities are thee hardest social model to perpetuate successfully. Money is ALL ways a terrible problem. Does everyone put all they own into thee pot and if so, who oversees thee use of that? If coumone leaves can they demand their contribution back? We want this NING to coumtinue in thee super positive way I.T. has created its SELF without any initial guidance at all. We are really impressed with how many groups and contact points, ideas and trust has been established by you all so fast.
We recently read a book published by Processmediainc.com. I.T. is a coumpilation ov articles written in thee 1960's and earlier 1970's when thousands ov groups ov all stripes tried to form coumunes across thee U.S.A. Ov these, today, probably less than 23 survive. All those who survived have a philosophy, or spiritual aspect, a unifying belief system that means enough to them to accept problems, to resolve issues for thee best for all and all have to subjugate ego to varying degrees for the collective health. We are hoping that thee ONE TRUE TOPI TRIBE can re-emerge from this ailing culture and gradually, after a LOT ov soul searching and extreme honesty, establish one or more coum-unities that will survive. I.T. is NOT easy, rarely fun at thee start, hard work, I.T. requires SINCERE surrender to thee group. A house full ov egos and/or strong opinions is not easy to develop in positive long term ways. WE are totally serious about this aspect ov OTTT. I.T. has all ways been a lifelong hope.
PLEASE, we cannot recommend too strongly that ANY Being here who even just imagines they'd like top make this happen, READ THIS BOOK as soon as possible.
"THE MODERN UTOPIAN" ( Alternative Communities of the 60's and 70's) by RICHARD FAIRFIELD.
We consider I.T. essential reading. You will soon realise how HARD creating a coum-unity is, AND how even more difficult I.T. is to sustain one for any length ov T.I.M.E.
Please forward this posting to everyone on thee NING if you can.
cari saluti,
Genesis BREYER P-ORRIDGE NYC September 2011
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